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Post by grahamk on Jul 24, 2011 18:28:32 GMT
The professional built ones in my link cost on average about £14,000.
They are no harder to build than a road going cartie. I made one of these when i was about 16 as a project with my dad, it had a Honda CR250 engine in it.
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Post by peasnbarley on Jul 24, 2011 19:26:10 GMT
Certainly if the lads go for a cartie able to handle rough terrain then there will be a lot more options of track available at a reduced set up cost. Call it a Club meeting with the permission of the land owner and the organisation is down to a toilet at the top and bottom of the hill. Camping on site, basic first aid cover and equipment borrowed from the Council's Leisure-lend scheme. Toilet Hire = £ 140 ( Less if hired as a works toilet) Leisure-lend = £ 60 (for annual membership) First Aid = £ 200 (Probably able to get lads from the local area. Marque = £ 60 ( Banchory Club hire) Towing = £ 150 ( Donation to tractor or car club) Total = £ 610 The entry fee would still have to be in the region of £40 - £ 50
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Post by Organgrinder on Jul 25, 2011 7:34:19 GMT
I agree with Charlie. From the point of view of the organiser, running an event off-road would be very much easier than doing something on a closed public road. Dick and I have discussed this idea for a few years, bur weren't sure whether there would be any takers if we organised an event.
The biggest problem we have in Belchford is setting up and taking down all the timing and safety equipment during an hour before and an hour after the race to get the job done before the road has to be open again. In this part of the world we have a lot of big open and fairly steep stubble fields in September that could be used to make up a track with just a few bales to act as course markers. I know it wouldn't be as hard core as the track on the video, but it would be ideal for beginners to get going. Crowd control would also be much easier and, you never know, you may even be able to get the public to pay a few quid to watch, allowing the entry fee to be very low
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Post by grahamk on Jul 25, 2011 10:34:26 GMT
Where i live there was a proper slalom track roughly12ft wide which is all downhill There was a track at Innerleithen i raced on, which is roughly 25-30 north towards Edinburgh from Border Bogies in Denholm. When i get a chance i will go and take some footage if it is still there. I feel we need create another catagory for these posts.
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Post by Scottish Cartie Association on Jul 25, 2011 13:43:59 GMT
Crowd control would also be much easier and, you never know, you may even be able to get the public to pay a few quid to watch, allowing the entry fee to be very low I think you might find it's a bit more complicated than that. If you charge the public to come and watch you'll need a Public Events Licence. They are not especially expensive - typically £60 for 3 years - but they involve exactly the same organisational overheads such as a risk assessment and safety plan, requirement to notify local authority, involve police and emergency service in planning if there are sufficent numbers expected, public liability insurance etc etc. Frankly - if you're doing the job properly, then the financial, time and manpower requirements are likely to be similar.
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Post by Organgrinder on Jul 25, 2011 13:55:32 GMT
I understand your thoughts CC, but for me the attraction is in the very much reduced time pressure we would have at Belchford if we didn't have to set up, run the event and clear the course in fairly narrow time window of our 0800 - 1700 road closure. The hard work on risk assessments, insurance, etc has been done so many times already that we would only need to make a few changes, rather than start from scratch.
We also struggle to charge the audience (about 2500 people) to attend at present because we run on a public road. If we were to run on private ground and attract the same number of spectators I reckon we could raise a lot of money for local good causes - we may even be in such a strong financial position that we don't need to charge competitors an entry fee.
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Post by grahamk on Jul 25, 2011 17:34:55 GMT
Plans for the build, metal is all cut and ready to weld. Dimensions are not to scale. [a href=" "] [/a]
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Post by team-art on Jul 25, 2011 18:27:50 GMT
Impressed. Looks a little bit like a R/C buggy.
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Post by azuma on Jul 25, 2011 23:23:22 GMT
A well trianguated chassis there. Should be nice and strong. What size box section are you planning to use? If using 25x25mm x 16SWG the all up weight could easily be heavier than expected, but you should be safe enough if it all goes "pete tong" You will probably think that you will have loads to spare, but once you factor in all round suspension and all of the materials and components involved, you could be scratching your head thinking ......how did it get this heavy?? Looking at the suspension design, kart /quad steering should be ideal, so you won't need the extra weight of a steering rack. Good luck to all of you who are competing in the Screwfix events and do us all proud.
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Post by andy on Jul 26, 2011 10:27:02 GMT
OK....we have just cancelled our entry and signed up to be part of Pist N Brokes pit Crew.
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Post by grahamk on Jul 26, 2011 10:36:34 GMT
Snap, so have i . We have pulled out but will be coming along to watch, the cartie will be made by then hopefully.
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Post by andy on Jul 26, 2011 10:57:58 GMT
Graham....you have pulled out ! ! ! How could you do that ?
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Post by grahamk on Jul 26, 2011 12:09:05 GMT
Yip, there is a very good chance i am away on this weekend . Thats why i pulled out, let someone else in for the fun. If i aint going then i will trun up to watch the rest and take pics etc.
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Post by andy on Jul 26, 2011 12:28:15 GMT
This is very embarassing for us.... We now have to re-enter.
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Post by peasnbarley on Jul 26, 2011 16:22:46 GMT
Well when you lads have made up your minds regards what you are doing perhaps some of you might be there to help an old fella who is probably going to regret entering in the first place. The speed bump at Dalby stayed with me for a few days so I hate to think what bumps and jumps are in store at the ScrewFix event.
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Post by stevec12 on Jul 26, 2011 17:57:47 GMT
dont everyone cancell we need some more entrys at the gloucester event
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Post by gunnerhoots on Jul 26, 2011 18:53:58 GMT
Just had a call from a nice young man from Screwfix. There are,nt enough entries to run the Chester Trials... would I mind switching to one of the others. Now dont get me wrong, I ve the choice if Cumbria or Shropshire............do I really want travel North, nearer the land where children learn cartie-ing with their mothers milk or would I prefer to go somewhere else. I think I,ll take my chances with the Shropshire lot !. I m sure there are lot more carties along the lines of Pist'n'Broke being planned in the garages and sheds North of the Borderand quite frankly my cobbled together old banger would'nt stand much of a a chance. Of course if the Shropshire set start posting pics of super off roaders I might consider a long drive to Gloucester
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Post by peasnbarley on Jul 26, 2011 21:27:07 GMT
GunnerHoots you can be certain of one thing and that is Graham pist'n'broke won't be at any risk of biting his tongue during the Cumbria event because it is pushed well up into his cheek. I am just waiting for Team Art to post 'Its just too easy lads'. ;D Team Alford will be there if at all possible as I have persuaded the house boss Cumbria is a great place to go for a long weekend away.
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Post by dougpeel on Aug 7, 2011 10:47:00 GMT
hi i'm new to all this but looking to go to one of the screw fix jobbies. was going to post a pic of the cart but cart figure of how to attach.
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Post by stevec12 on Aug 7, 2011 16:34:22 GMT
Team C12 take first and second with just 0.2 seconds between son and father and looking forward to meeting the others at the final
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