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Post by Graeme on Jun 27, 2005 18:28:49 GMT
And what's the best way to cut up tyres? I've used a drill to get through the sidewall, then a battery jigsaw to get through the sidewall but when I hit the steel plies in the tread it won't go any further. It's then alternating steel snips and hacksaw for slow progress through the tread - any better tools?
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Post by MarkSimpson on Jun 27, 2005 21:42:54 GMT
My old man recommends a stanley knife and washing up liquid as a lube for cutting non steel belted radials.
I suppose the same lube might work on your jigsaw?(with metal catting blades, but I suspect the teeth would be too small for the rubber?)
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Post by Si F on Jun 28, 2005 9:00:12 GMT
I'd reach for the angle grinder I reckon. And/or try and get tyres without steel in as Mark mentioned....
Si F
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Post by Joel on Jun 28, 2005 12:01:27 GMT
When I used a tyre with beading I cut it with metal cutting blades on an angle grinder. However they do not cope well with beading and I went through about 2 discs per shoe.
I recommend using non-beaded tyre, they are easier to cut and don't stab you when you pick up your boots. It is hard to find a non-beaded car tyre, but there are better alternatives. For Luge the best stuff you can get is truck tyre remould. This comes in a long flat strip so is easy to cut and mount. It is hard to get hold of, but ask at your local bus depot and they may have some offcuts you can use. Alternativly you can pick up the bits that have flown off on the side of the road.
Joel
P.S. Again, see my tutorial coming soon
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Post by Graeme on Jun 28, 2005 13:03:46 GMT
Anyone got makes and models of non-steel beaded tyres? I did email Colway tyres, who are one of the major "retreaders", but no response In the meantime I'll continue hacking up the Michelin I got from my local tyre fitters - off to buy an angle grinder
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Post by JasonA on Jun 28, 2005 14:34:00 GMT
Yo Graeme,
Don't bother with steel-belted tyres, they're too much effort and mess and destroy metal-cutting discs at an alarming rate. It's easy when you know how - go for either motorcycle tyres or ride-on lawnmower tyres. The former only have two steel belts in total - one at each edge which a cutting disc DOES zip through very easily. The latter has none - just a bit of nylon at the edges. To get hold of either just go to the nearest tyre fitter and tell them what you're after. They'll be only too pleased to give you used tyres for nothing as usually they have to pay for old tyres to be taken away!
Once you're through the steel belts at the edge, a jigsaw seems to work OK, although a nice shortcut to the whole process is that I just shove my foot in the tyre, draw round it with a pencil and then go over and over the pencil line with a scalpel - a really sharp one like a brand new modelling knife. Much quicker and easier. You'll need plenty of rubber for Chamrousse!
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Post by Graeme on Jul 1, 2005 10:19:07 GMT
Motorbike tyres [thumbs up emoticon] - got four shoe prints out of a tyre already with tin snips (and an angle grider to get a start).
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Post by JasonA on Jul 1, 2005 11:00:20 GMT
Delighted to hear it! There you go! Well done. I bought a big pair of tin snips for precisely this purpose, but got bored and resorted to the scalpel.
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Post by Tom W on Jul 1, 2005 11:57:47 GMT
Spoke to "Helene" (Hot Parisian streetluge chick) at Mesnieres freeride last W/E. She's currently running bike tyres on her feet. She said they were pretty sticky at first and "grabbed" when she tried to brake, but added that once you wear down the outer compound, the inner core is just right.
Let us know how you get on with your new rubber.
Tom W.
P.S. I remember meeting an Austrian butboarder at Hot Heels a while back. He was absolutely covered with bike tyre : Elbows, feet, knees, arms, back etc, etc... You could always tell when he fell off, you could hear the screetching of tyre rubber from up on the glacier!
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Post by Graeme on Aug 16, 2005 16:43:01 GMT
Motorbike rubber was pants - way too sticky - after the first brake, they just juddered (and then stuck to the footpegs 'cos they'd melted). Some of the French guys were using (hard) enduro bike tyre which they reckoned worked okay.
Struggling to get hold of any ride-on mower tyre (or golf kart tyre) but have got some ATV/quad tyre - it cuts easily but it's knobbly - reckon it's going to be any good? The knobbles will give a smaller surface area to begin with, not sure if that's an issue (my boots with knobbley soles work well...), but I'd imagine they wear away fairly easily (or cut them off...?).
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Post by will on Aug 17, 2005 9:37:16 GMT
i'm running tht soft car racing tyre that i "commendered" from a race track near me and if you can rember i could stop so much quicker than anyone else at dalby!
The chattered abit a the show day at gurston so i've now cut line going frm the toe to the heel and are abot 6mm deep so on hot days this should be better.
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Post by JasonA on Aug 17, 2005 10:13:39 GMT
I found bike tyre rubber too grippy in the end, but superb in wet conditions. However, that was soft compound racing bike tyre - if you got a crappy hard-compound road bike tyre it should be OK.
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Post by will on Aug 17, 2005 11:28:43 GMT
i might go and see if there's and hardcompound tyres there aswell
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