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Post by kingkay on Dec 3, 2011 0:09:34 GMT
Please feel free to bask in the beauty of my powerpoint presentation.
I was just wondering how the rules would be interpreted for a driving position like so.
Its feet and head first if you get my idea.
as you can see, nothing will ruin my superb aerodynamics.
yay or nay?
thankyouverymuch.
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Post by kingkay on Dec 3, 2011 0:12:11 GMT
it would help if I attacked said picture wouldnt it? Attachments:
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Post by woody on Dec 3, 2011 7:58:57 GMT
I have seen American soapbox derby cars with a seating position like that
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Post by team-art on Dec 3, 2011 8:25:48 GMT
Had wondered about that…. My last question, before I dismissed the idea was……Seatbelts?
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Post by andy on Dec 3, 2011 8:27:53 GMT
I know a lot of time and effort went into your beautiful graphics and it explains your concept wonderfully. But it's a big fat nay from Leeds.
Woody is right, that is how the Americans do it, well some of them.
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Post by Scottish Cartie Association on Dec 3, 2011 10:53:14 GMT
That's not uncommon configuration in the AASBD, but their races are for kids and down tracks that are dead straight, about 100yds long and relatively shallow. Top speeds are under 30mph. It might be OK at some races, but I agree with team-art. I think you'd struggle to find a harness that would be appropriate for that seating position. As a rule of thumb, I'd say your shoulders need to be further back than your hips.
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Post by kingkay on Dec 3, 2011 18:01:18 GMT
So is that a definitely not, or an ok if you can sort a propper multipoint seatbelt out? I find the 16 pages of rules and regulations for Cairngorm very vague at times
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Post by azuma on Dec 3, 2011 18:40:56 GMT
Its good to think outside the box, but there are a couple of issues I see : 1) already mentioned are harnesses, 2) Seat - ideally the back of the seat should follow the contour of your back or be parallel to it,(??) 3) If 2 applies - then how do you get in and out - especially in the event of an accident, how do others get you out? 4) if the worst happens and you are involved in accident and roll, I don't think your body would take it too well. I'm definitely not qualified to make these judgments, but only to make observations. Regarding CSE rules and regs docs - yes they may not be as precise as other forms of sport, but they are the most comprehensive I have seen for a cartie event and they do allow for individual carts to be built. Also Stephen is more than happy to answer any queries on rules - I know, I have annoyed him enough over the years.
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Post by Scottish Cartie Association on Dec 3, 2011 19:02:59 GMT
So is that a definitely not, or an ok if you can sort a propper multipoint seatbelt out? I'll take the easy way out. It's a definite fail. I find the 16 pages of rules and regulations for Cairngorm very vague at times Bit of a no win situation really - keep 'em brief and terse and everyone says they're "unclear". Cover all eventualities and options, and everyone complains they are too complicated. Anyway - I can only find 10 pages in my copy. Can you send me the missing 6?
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Post by andy on Dec 4, 2011 22:05:51 GMT
what would be the benefits of such a seating position ?
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Post by kingkay on Dec 4, 2011 22:42:52 GMT
I was thinking it would keep the weight more central so it might handle better.
I could teardrop the rear much better as my shoulders wouldn't be in it which would improve air flow off the back.
keep the whole thing smaller too. less surface area, potentialy less drag.
more room for the pulse jet too.
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Post by kingkay on Dec 4, 2011 22:43:57 GMT
so back to trying to find a racing dwarf.
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Post by neils on Dec 6, 2011 19:19:48 GMT
"Pulse Jet" is that what the effect of too many beans is called these days?
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Post by drscope on Dec 7, 2011 19:47:19 GMT
I think this would be an extreamly uncomfortable seating position and even if it was allowed, you would have a difficult time trying to control the cart.
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Post by kingkay on Dec 9, 2011 11:17:40 GMT
"I think this would be an extreamly uncomfortable seating position and even if it was allowed, you would have a difficult time trying to control the cart."
Brilliant, Ive already managed to achieve this with the cart I've got.
never mind. time for spinal surgery then.
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