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Post by lizzz on Jun 2, 2011 13:54:04 GMT
Hey guys, If your interested in having a look at the IGSA race report for Bo-peep here it is - www.igsaworldcup.com/We had an amazing weekend!
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Post by woody on Jun 3, 2011 5:01:50 GMT
This was an awesome event with spot on organization it is a shame it is the only IGSA event in the UK I cant wait for next years
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Post by Scottish Cartie Association on Jun 3, 2011 8:45:00 GMT
Congratulations - the first one is always the hardest, and they get progressively easier the more you do.
Any chance of including carties and gravity sidecar next year?
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Post by lizzz on Jun 3, 2011 19:57:31 GMT
To be honest, Probably not... A few reasons really.. 1 being the time to get the carts up and down the hill... Soap boxers don't race, I only see time trials at soap boxers events, this is an issue for my event, we want a RACEEE! An awesome spectacle for spectators to see.
And another reason is the 'them and us' theory, as much as I would not like it to be like this, it kinda is.. Soap boxers themselves have confirmed it.
Unfortunately I don't see any invites for skateboarders to soap box events..Apart from Cadwell..They are all gravity racers, I don't see why they aren't welcomed, skateboarding will draw more spectators and interest into your events, but the fact they are ignored is hugely off putting for me.
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Post by peasnbarley on Jun 3, 2011 21:10:30 GMT
Hi Lizzz - I don't want to get dragged into a - them and us scenario but there is I believe only perceived differences between the two groups. Misunderstandings like your belief that we don't race head to head and only do time trials. We race head to head whenever possible and the steeper and more extreme the hill the better. I am a Soapboxer but gagging to have a crack at your boards as one of your expert riders will confirm. - He was at Border Bogies doing demo runs but it was the Cairngorm boarding runs which lit my fire. Part of the trouble as I understand is the fact that Carts can run on much rougher surfaces than boards and I would question if Cairngorm would have been suitable for you guys last year because of the re-surfacing. However when a track suits both I see no reason why both groups can't share a hill unless time restraints prevent this. The gravity bikers asked to ride on the back of cartie time trials and will probably be at Dalby forest. I don't think it is correct to say that boarders or for that matter bikers are not made welcome it is simply a question for each organiser to juggle with. I can understand you being hugely put off if you feel your group is being deliberately excluded but I don't believe they are. It takes time and effort for three different groups to get together and gel and perhaps some never will because of age,outlook and the desire for each to keep their own distinct identity but there would be no harm in giving it a try.
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Post by woody on Jun 4, 2011 9:16:39 GMT
Hi , i have raced at both soapbox and streetluge events Bo-peep is quite narrow but soapboxes could run both time trials and two at a time head to head the only reason i can see for not running both at the same event would be time , the Skate/luge/bike/turtle event filled the available time ,could have fitted in a couple of soapboxes but not much more and if the soapboxers i know got wind of how good Bo-peep is it would have been sold out in hours ! the only way they got away with having both at Cadwell is by having strict segregation and in effect running two separate events simultaneously i took my soapbox ,gravity bike and my street luge to last years ,it was just not possible to enter in both soapbox and luge as they happened at the same time on different hills , in fact i did not even get to see a longboard or luge in action ! I do not think there is a "them and us" thing going on , i would like to think is it a friendly rivalry
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Post by Scottish Cartie Association on Jun 21, 2011 16:54:53 GMT
To be fair, I don't see any invites for soap boxes at skate events...
You seem to have based your opinions on several fairly large misconceptions, which is a bit of a shame. The fact is that carties do race when possible (e.g. Cairngorm, Whitehill & Bordon, Aldington), and gbikes and skaters do run at cartie races when there is space for them (e.g. Border Bogies, Dalby, Belchford, Cadwell before it was cancelled).
As for "them and us" - that's a new one on me. Not heard it until you mentioned it.
Why don't you come up to Cairngorm next week and see how we do things, and then maybe get involved and help us get skaters involved next year?
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Post by woody on Jun 21, 2011 19:32:36 GMT
Didnt avimore start out as a Luge and gravity bike event ?
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Post by Ian r on Jun 21, 2011 19:55:14 GMT
It did indeed. 2001 & 2002, the Highland Wheelz Xtreme Though we did manage to run our 3 wheeled soapbox down the course in 2002, from 'the sugar bowl' as it only had one brake & I didn't wanna arrive at the big 180 degree left hander relying on it :-( Course then was as first Caingorm......
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Post by Scottish Cartie Association on Jun 21, 2011 19:56:25 GMT
Not really. There used to be a luge event there, but the last one was in 2002 (I think). There is no connection other than the venue between it and Cairngorm Soapbox Extreme, which was started by the Scottish Cartie Association in 2009. [edit] Actually - I tell a lie. There is one connection. Jim Ewen raced luge in 2002 and soapbox in 2009.
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Post by dhsteve on Oct 31, 2011 13:26:14 GMT
I am unfortunately with Liz on this i travelled from grimsby to bo peep and i must say what an event Liz great fun for all and 6 months before took part in cadwell and unfortunately the enjoyment 100% lacked at cadwell i paid nearly £30 to take part with 8 runs for the whole day of which was completely dominated by soap boxes and this was the reason none of us entered to race this year it simply isnt cost worthy when we have some great spots near by but i must say the soap boxers are lovely people but the way i see it is Longboarding i feel to get soap boxers and longboarders and co on a hill at the same time puts to much on event management and no one can never leave completely happy and with costs of events means there is always some one going to be left disappointed it would be lovely to all read of the same page but the disciplines differ so much. Hopefully next year cadwell maybe more applicable as an event for longboarders and ill be back but untill then both disciplines will have to remain as seperate entities
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